One prayer would be that incorrect ID’s could be sorted out before you send them to iNat
If you still think that this is correct - I’ll let it go - but take a look Tony - I think that all it needs is an agreement for my ID to go to the correct location - see Mary Maytham Kidd (I don’t have the new one)
Wow. I did not realize how slow iSpot was. takes forever!
Thanks: made the correction.
But I dont know if it will count. Open University stonewalling and not giving us permission to move our data over to iNat. If they do, I dont know when the cutoff will be.
We certainly dont have any workable data dumps since June 23 2017, so anything submitted after that date will likely be lost forever. Same with Identifications and agreements.
(oh: and thanks for the topics about the quizzes. If it was not so horrible it would be really funny!!!)
Thanks for that Tony - Shall I send you more via the forum?
I think it’s your internet connection that may be slow - I have no problems here, but do remember the days in FH when I frequently ran out of time and needed to pay for more data.
Sad stories of attack at Silvermine and the warning from the Parks Board about other spots. I used to go there on my own, just telling the car-guard which route I was taking. Not long ago a friend was murdered while waking above Kalk Bay - Please take care (they were a party of nine the papers said).
Another for your attention - will your “agreement” tidy this up?
Thanks
A murder there on Saturday. Still not apprehended.
Not a internet connection problem (by the by we are getting fibre at last) - iNaturalist works fine.
Unfortunately, we cannot claim anything done after October end, when we pulled out of iSpot. Will have to make a note and re-Identify it at iNat.
A friend of mine was murdered there a few years ago - amazing and sad how times change
Meanwhile - this has spurred me on to add the hundreds of observations that are on my computer.
Sadly I’m seeing so many other observations in the links that are incorrectly identified and even agreed - are these going to be carried across to iNat? Somebody needs to motivate your experts to housekeep them.
I assume that my comments or any other non-members comments or identifications, for that matter, won’t appear in the transferred obs; how are you going to manage this?
Thinking iNat is probably faster for you because of time zones and you don’t go on at the locals busy times.
That is why we left. It is just too difficult. iNat has superb identification tools, where one can batch ID all observations of a taxon and rapidly go through and make corrections.
Judging by the number who have translocated, the experts appear to agree that it will be simpler to wait until the transfer is done.
it also has those tools you wanted for your lichens (e.g. you can create a project and add those observations that you want to the project, without having to ask users to add tags).
Unless the Open University gives us permissions that it is not doing at present (nada: they are as quiet as tombstones), we cannot pull across comments, except for users that give us permissions and that also log onto iNat so that we can transfer their comments. Fortunately we have permissions for 85% of data and 80% of comments and IDs, so far. You have not yet commented on whether you want your IDs and comments to come across or be lost.
Yes, it is the quieter time, but there is a huge European component (esp. the Spanish). But this morning for the Cape Flora we got more observations than iSpot got for the region the whole of January, so that cannot be just that: there is no one on iSpot, but hundreds of registered users are using iNat at this moment. (e.g. 8 people registered and unregistered on iSpot and 11 people added observations in the last 60 seconds on iNat). But even when busy the local cloud keeps speeds fast.
A powerful speech, if not a plea, Tony. It is so gentle and undemanding in iSpot at the moment and I am sure that is no blessing. I am following both, picking up your fuzzy hummingbirds here and watching Outramps and others there. Unless you are fully engaged, there is no more satisfaction in either place.
I’m sure that I’ve told you that I will not be participating in iNat in any way.
I share my lichens on Flickr when I have time - so don’t need to take on any more.
Remember also that iSpot is governed by UK laws https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Protection_Act_1998
Do you also remember why we needed for iSpot to change the security of the site - (http became https) I think we need to thank them for all that they have done and I personally think that this was done to protect the users - not to make life difficult for the SA Community.
Maybe this was not reported in the SA press - worth a read.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/13/nhs-cyber-attack-everything-need-know-biggest-ransomware-offensive/
Then this is something you should be sharing with you team and followers -
https://www.securesafepro.com/articles/how-to-protect-your-password-this-year-6-steps-to-a-secure-password.html
Hope this explains why I’m not leaving iSpot.
Not a problem: your IDs and comments will not be taken across with our data, nor your observations as per your request.
Should any users elect to remove their iSpot data your input will vanish.
You will get fair warning before we move the data, just so that you have a chance to consider the implications and change your mind if you want to. But the decision is entirely yours.
The issues of data protection (UK laws included), site security and user protection apply throughout the world and across all sites. They are not relevant to this issue at all.
WHY would someone want to undermine iSpot ? - It’s not as if there is any gain for these individuals.
This is such a great observation it’s a pity that Shaun hasn’t agreed or challenged the ID - wonder why - a compliment here would have been rather nice
19 March 2018 - 6:02PM Shaun Swanepoel
South African National Parks,Protea Atlas Project,Cape Nature, SeaKeys, Garden Route Botanical Garden, Crustacean Atlas
“I suggest you use https://www.inaturalist.org/ in future.
Most of Southern Africa users have migrated across, and you would get a ID faster.”
https://www.ispotnature.org/communities/southern-africa/view/observation/757417/unknown-tree-south-east-of-maun#new