This is the original post referred to above.
The dictionary recognition of a correct name is, in my opinion, important.
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The allocation of credit? Is that a worthwhile use of OU computing time considering many of those affected are not still posting.
I have added a comment to the original post - pleased to have been enlightened on this dictionary European v African teaser.
The reputation points one is tricky as you point out but it will only apply to a small number of people most of whom will probably have high reputation anyway so the small amount of reputation they might have missed out on is probably not significant. If anyone is particularly worried about this then they can always speak to me directly and show the particular instances so we can see how big the effect is.
I think this is one of the things we can ALL look at when the New Dictionary is inserted.
We can move banners, if it is not confusing and is deserved.
Reputation scores are hardly affected, I have discovered. No-one loses an Icon, as far as I can tell, and the âscoreâ is easily rebuilt.
Regular updates regarding Dictionary Updates
sometimes (rarely) I will post a screen print from the test site IN one of my own Observations
hereâs a couple
https://www.ispotnature.org/communities/uk-and-ireland/view/observation/775707/
https://www.ispotnature.org/communities/uk-and-ireland/view/observation/775886/
(not many agreements (chus sayinâ))
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If you want to be kept informed regarding updates then Favourite (AutoTrack) the project. I updated it today.
I am regularly adding to this project
PROJECT RENEWED favourite it if you want to be kept informed
Potential taxonomy issue? https://www.ispotnature.org/communities/uk-and-ireland/view/observation/837531/an-easy-harvestman-well-kind-of
I am not certain I can respond well to that
The NHM Index is clear, there is no agg. Species Dictionary | Natural History Museum.
THIS is the Thread for Dictionary testing and taxonomy issues.
I updated the Project today - it takes me a while and several edits.
Please stay abreast, as I will have to remove some of the comments and illustrations so as to keep it easy to follow.
Please do NOT assume it is only ME doing the testing or responding
@miked @Chris_Valentine
An oddity:
Visiting Coprinopsis | Observation | UK and Ireland | iSpot Nature
I viewed some of the âOther observations of Coprinopsis radiataâ. Firstly,
Coprinus lagopus | Observation | UK and Ireland | iSpot Nature
Has C. lagopus as title and valid ID name. But the external links, and the Other Observations link refer to C. radiata.
Hare's Foot Inkcap? | Observation | UK and Ireland | iSpot Nature
Is the same.
As far as I can tell, the names are not synonyms.
Thatâs quite interesting, thanks - i think there will be an explanation but I need to do them all systematically (this eve)
I notice that Parasola plicatilis is also implicated.
A brisk look in the test site shows NONE are renamed, in fact I think the new code has missed them.
I did see that Coprinus lagopus s. lat. is now available as an ID and there might be two versions of Hareâs Foot.
Iâll be back later
Thought I better look these up in the source files to find out whatâs going on.
Coprinopsis radiata (NHMSYS0020061890) is a preferred name but has no match in the verncular.csv file (no common name)
Coprinus lagopus is a synonym in taxa.csv but the preferred record is as above
Now we have Hareâs Foot Inkcap (Coprinus lagopus) in another identification. The preferred common name is âHaresfoot inkcapâ with âHareâs-Foot Inkcapâ being described as ânot well formedâ - both point to NHMSYS0020535270 which is the key for Coprinopsis lagopus var. lagopus
Not sure if any of that helps!
This sounds like a mistake in the original dictionary we are currently using, I suspect not the only one of this type. Need to see what happens to the records on the updated site, it is possible they may go to the wrong name. It is one of the reasons why it is so important to keep the data from the current dictionary when the data are updated so we can always go back and find the items that might need manually changing. In this particular case it sounds like the current dictionary changes C. lagopus to C. radiata when it should not so it might need to be changed back manually somehow (if that is possible) once the site is updated.
This kind of error should be rare and is not necessarily linked to the dictionary update itself.
None of the sites I visited suggested that the two names were synonyms, but I have now found Coprinopsis radiata | NBN Atlas
This mentions Coprinus lagopus sensu auct. as a synonym for C radiata. âSensu auct.â was a new one on me: âin the sense of certain authorsâ. Wiki notes that âit normally refers to a sense which is considered invalidâ.
that might explain it, was considered a synonym at the time of the current ispot dictionary but now that is no longer considered correct
this suggests that the Test site Code is not working on these (more from me tomorrow)
Original https://www.ispotnature.org/communities/uk-and-ireland/view/observation/30752/
in the case you show here things seem to be correct i.e. in the current site C. lagopus is somehow treated as a synonym of C. radiata but in new dictionary site it is not. However there is still the question of why it was showing on the current site as C. lagopus rather than C. radiata in the id bar but not in the search wiki etc.
I agree that to know why is useful but it can be dropped as a case because it is solved when the New Dictionary is inserted PROVIDED the new code sweeps them. We are regularly finding new Observations that are missed by the code. As Chris âsaysâ itâs an easy fix but each fix is superseded by the need for another. My question is how does the new Code MISS some and not others.
The NHM New Dictionary clearly has Coprinus lagopus as the synonym
https://www.nhm.ac.uk/our-science/data/uk-species/taxon?tvk=NBNSYS0000021670
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An Original Hare'sfoot Inkcap | Observation | UK and Ireland | iSpot Nature
Where the external links are PROPERLY the same as the ID (in each case)
the one we are discussing, that has different EXTERNAL links, has a forced ID
https://www.ispotnature.org/communities/uk-and-ireland/view/observation/30752/
in 2010 and probably until 2013 it was possible to get a Valid ID without reference to the Drop-down
The trigger for the External links is the Common name Hares foot ink cap.
Click on that takes you to the Current Browser.
In short, User Error?
Here is my test
https://www.ispotnature.org/communities/uk-and-ireland/view/observation/837685/
